8/27/2007
japanese

phofa
Please tell us how you started drawing characters.
KAWS
I got really interested in drawing characters in the late 90's when I had the opportunity to make my first toy. Before that I would also draw characters but I wasn't looking at them like family. I also worked in animation for a few years before I made my first toy.
phofa
That was a part time job?
KAWS
No, it was a full-time job. It was only a job to me. Show up and work to get paid. At that time I was not interested in animation at all.
phofa
Was your style influenced from your work experience?
KAWS
No. My character has not been influenced by the time of my work experience, although I cannot single out how my style has been influenced by. But for sure that my experience in animation is not the roots of my style.
phofa
Do you challenge yourself by using new painting materials?
KAWS
I have been using same media for over 10 years I guess. For last 10 years, I didn’t intend to change. Maybe I like keep using one thing once I get used to it. Of course, I do experiment from time to time, but I always come back to the same material.
phofa
Can you tell me what type of materials you’ve “experimented” with, but ended up not using it at the end?
KAWS
Let’s say, such as mixture of totally different inks, or try some gloss paint, while I normally prefer matte finished painting. It gives different expression of the paint. Or, use both matt and gloss black paint together. I do try things like that as experiment. Also, using the regular paint but get variation by adjusting the transparency of it. …… I tried this to get the effect I was creating when I was doing some of my silk screens.
phofa
Other than artwork, you’re art directing OriginalFake, a shop in Minami-Aoyama?
KAWS
I think it is a good thing that I do this kind of work now, so I see my own direction to proceed. But doing other work than illustration is not because I have business vision in that direction. I just always like to do many things. I don’t draw a line between artwork and product. I always commit to both with same attitude. Sometime my painting becomes products. Sometime, my design for graphic influences my painting. If I paint everyday, I say “Having many different works to do, I can always face to each work with fresh feeling.” It is very good for me.
phofa
How are you influenced by working together with creators from different fields?
KAWS
I think it is a challenge that my work changes after having the third parties’ participation. It is a good challenge. I have different delight than the one I have on own solo work when the product with such other creator finally came up after going through the filter of specialist of different fields such as fashion, and architecture. I am very happy when I finally see the result in person. It is different from paintings by myself. It is a working process by communicating with other creators, which gives me a chance to see the object from different angle sometime. I think it is a great thing,
phofa
Speaking of fashion, I was very surprised to see that the zippers of GORE-TEX(R) JACKEThad teeth pattern.
KAWS
That is the thing I was very glad to work with Konno. I am in graphic field, and not specialty of fashion. I think it is fortunate to be able to do apparel project with a person I can trust in his field. I think it is a great thing that we both can take advantage of each working background on a product.
phofa
How about the interior of OriginalFake?
KAWS
It is the work with Wonderwall Katayama I had the idea that I wanted the wall to look traditional from distance, but it is more contemporary when you look closely as it has pop design.
phofa
I love this tile because it works as an icon. There are your icons within the design such as X’d eyes, teeth pattern, and cross bones,
KAWS
I normally do not flash new idea and complete all the sudden. My work has started from a drawing and then grows. When I first draw X eyes, and teeth graphic, I didn’t expect it would has become like this. It will be nice that they keep growing and become like a family.
phofa
Going forward, what kind of creation work would you like to try?
KAWS
After having the store, I want to do more store design. Such as, say design stores with Katayama, and after one is done, we say, ”OK, next.” I know it is unrealistic.
phofa
So you are interested in architecture and interior design?
KAWS
A little bit. When I first made a toy, I was surprised “ wow, my work has become like this when it is 3D”I had the same excitement when we did the store.
phofa
OK, last question. What do you think you’ll be doing when you are 60?
KAWS
Well, I'll bring out books of the stuff I made to show to my children. “Look, your daddy used to be cool!”
phofa
So, at 60 you will not be cool anymore and retired?
KAWS
I don’t know if I am cool now. But I hope to trick my kids to think I was. I know for sure I will not be retired.




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